Interesting he says when things were not going well in their relationship, thats when she poured herself into work, out late, not coming home at all etc. Yet experts in domestic violence say its impossible to know what happens behind closed doors, and social media accounts can act as a tool to hide turmoil in the home. This may sound strange but he could have done it to have them be with her in death. She worked at the hospital till 2016, and then, joined as an independent representative for Le-vel, a company that markets Thrive health and wellness products. He went from being a loving husband excited to welcome a new baby to his family to a man cheating on his wife to a man who murdered his wife and daughters and dumped them in an oil field. That same month Shanann and her daughters flew to North Carolina for six weeks to visit family, per Pop Sugar. way out by divorcing instead of killing her. That summer, Chris had gone from a loving husband to a cheater to a killer. Shanann was born to Frank Rzucek and Sandra Rzucek. Why do you need film footage of that? She would also get child support but its based on income and its possible, only possible, she was making more than he was. But nonetheless I still feel Chris killed the children. And Leonard King said the same thing that it was virtually impossible to engage her in conversation. To her credit she was, and she did. But nonetheless I still feel Chris killed the children. She would have moved back to NC, had her parents look after the kids, gotten a regular ole job and not have been too happy. I am curious why we never hear from any other women in Chris Watts past? Divorce and talks of separation are obviously ways to verbally and mentally distance ones self from a S/O when talking to a potential new partner but this can oftentimes be the catalyst as wellthe reason for the Familicideone has to keep up with the lie they have already told. It was a part of his responsibility. For those who may be experiencing intimate partner violence from an abuser and were not certain that is the case here they are able to fit into a societal norm, the perfect family.. He wants out but. On August 13, 2018, Chris strangled Shanann in their Colorado home. Not a popular opinion. It's no mystery, the Watts marriage was in trouble long before Shan'ann received that critical credit card alert on Saturday night, proving Watts wasn't at the Rockies Games, and suggesting he wasn't eating alone. I think he was motivated by the insurance money. For some reason she couldnt fathom him cheating and posting stupid shit constantly about her wonderful life that was only in her head. His belief was; if I dont make the decision, I wont ever be wrong. On August 16, the authorities discovered Shananns body buried in a shallow grave nearby, and the childrens bodies were found hidden in the oil tanks. Then he drove her body to a job site at the oil company where he worked. On the day of his arrest, Chris was fired from his job. Chris Watts ' pregnant wife, Shanann Watts, and daughters Bella and Celeste went missing on Aug. 13, 2018, after she missed a doctor's appointment. I couldnt imagine a better man for us. You have some real writing talent. Chris, we are so incredibly blessed to have you! she wrote. So theres a match between a victim siding with a victim. Chris Watts, then 33, had grown distant from his family and was seeing a new woman. Chris was working for Anadarko Petroleum Corp at that time and the couple had to pay a debt of $44800. I also find that interesting which seems to me she couldnt handle conflict either. She states that she felt "very insecure" during her first marriage, and goes on to discuss how bad experiences transformed her into a self-motivated woman who built her own home by age 25. That is where the Psychology comes into questionForensically/Criminally, Behaviorally and otherwise. One of the jobs typically associated with psychopaths are salespeople. And I say this as a woman you can be controlling and its something Im always working on. Thats bad enough in private, in a marriage, imagine what it feels like to see that on social media from your partner. Hes the best dad us girls could ask for.. And if her controlling nature was no big deal then it would have been no big deal. The documentary, entitled American Murder: The Family Next Door, began streaming on September 30. I believe CW told NK and SW exactly what each of them wanted to hear to fit his narrative and his end-game. Perpetrators may control their victims using sexual, emotional, verbal, psychological, financial or digital abuse. A lot of people seem to side with Shanann because shes the victim. But she didnt let up about it. On August 9, Shanann left for a work trip to Arizona and returned the morning of August 13. Shanann hiding her possible impending divorce, goes along with her living in denial as she does when she tells her Thrive clients that shes a better mother and all around human being because she wears a patch, eats the bars and drinks the shakes. Shanann was still very good friends with her ex husbands mother too. But this wasnt the trigger, it couldnt be, because Shanann already knew about the divorce, and had known for a long time. Guaranteed she didnt make enough to support herself, she needed Chris pay to keep her illusion going. Making the decisions. We also know that in the weeks prior Shanann was setting her husband up in her Thrive spiels as a great father and perfect husband and the best thing that has ever happened to her. On November 3, 2012, Chris and Shanann got married in the Mecklenberg County of North Carolina. Cans Natz. Required fields are marked *. Didnt Shanann cheat on Leonard with the middle eastern guy at Dirty South he mentions? She was previously married to Chris Watts. I didnt believe it until reading thru so very many sites and articles like these with comment sections and such. Im sure he brought up divorce many times, her Im not so sure. This narrative isnt very nice, and not very popular. The Watts family eventually settled in Frederick, Colorado in a five-bedroom home they bought in 2013. Likely when Chris did the same thing to her she may have had some insight into herself, that this is what happened with Leonard, which caused her to try her hardest to get Chris to talk to her. Tons of couples go through this type of stuff! He committed to committing some of the worst offenses and then proceeded to act like it was no big deal. He never ever portrayed anything when it came to those poor little girls. I guess what I cant get my mind around is how he moved from wanting out to strangling those little girls and his wife. The Colorado woman's husband, Chris - a normally loving affectionate man - had become cold and distant. She died on August 13, 2018 in Frederick, Colorado, USA. Prosecutors have cited Watts' desire for a fresh start with his mistress, coworker Nichol Kessinger, 30, as his motive in the killings and the Google searches, as well as other facts made public in the documents, provide insight into the state of mind of a man Shanann's father described as a "heartless monster." That is never a good sign. At the time of her death, she was fifteen weeks pregnant with a son who she had named Nico Lee Watts; her date of delivery was January 31, 2019. I dont know if Shanann could have acclamated herself to a different lifestyle, honestly I guess well never know. I love this man! Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The two had a tumultuous relationship, and divorced in 2013. If she hated him so much, why didnt she leave him? He pleaded guilty that November to all three slayings. I do think he has some sort of an underlying personality disorder, diagnosed or undiagnosedthis would explain a lot of his strange and undetermined behavior patterns since childhood. He then dumped his children's bodies on an oil site owned by the company he worked for. And if you dont, youre victim blaming. A Netflix documentary titled American Murder: The Family Next Door directed by Jenny Popplewell was released in September 2020. Not sure how often that happens even though Im still friends with my sons ex-wife but it would be very hard not to like her, There is an interview of an ex-girlfriend . I dont think he seems like much of the lovey-dovey father/husband type. At all. The first time Chris attempted to murder his two children, Shanann was still alive. It really isnt a good feeling at all to know you are expendable and vulnerable. That last picture here Watts looks like the wolf in sheeps clothing, baring one of his canine teeth. Days before she was murdered by her husband, 34-year-old Shanann Watts reached out to a friend and shared her growing concerns about her marriage -- but she never suspected she was in danger. My former brother in law once told me that he let his wife make most of their decisions. Shanann Watts worked for a multi-level marketing companywhileChris Watts was employed by Anadarko Petroleum (though he was fired on the day of his arrest) per The Coloradan. Shanann was married to a man named Leonard Kim and they got divorced in 2009. The case became one of the most publicized murders in American history. Said he thought another baby would fix his feelings. Yeah, she was a real gem. He doesnt say but of course, we are only getting Leonards side of the story and we cant hear Shananns. She was a fraud plain and simple. Easier said than done, of course. She started working as a human resource specialist at Childrens Hospital Colorado Anschutz Medical Campus, Aurora in 2013. It has helped me to put my thoughts in perspective because nothing else has. She would contact CW and NKs employer outing them and she would stir up ANY kind of shit she could even if it would be detrimental to her own children. Hammering away relentlessly. Specially after they are both dead! And they were his children too, not just shannons. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. He considered his family an albatross around his neck and divorce was never an option for him after the pregnancy was announced. So maybe he was just as obsessed with money as she was. They had no children from their marriage together and have not communicated in over ten years he estimated. . Shanann Watts' First Marriage The opening 10 minutes of American Murder features social media footage of Shanann explaining her life story. Chris Watts opened up about the many cracks in his marriage shortly after being sentenced to life in prison without parole for murdering his family. Why does everyone on this thread seem so willing to badmouth a victim none of you have met? By Adam Carlson Published on December 7, 2018 10:00 AM Shanann Watts' parents knew her marriage was having problems and that her husband of nearly six years, Chris Watts, had grown distant. Chris Watts was charged with the murders of Shanann and their daughters Bella and Celeste on Aug. 21, 2018. True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek, Discovery DocumentsEx husbandLeonard King. In an effort to avoid the death sentence, he had pled guilty on Nov. 6, 2018 to killing his pregnant 34-year-old wife Shanann Watts, and their daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, not quite three months earlier.And the five life sentences that would be handed down weeks laterplus additional time for the murder of his unborn son . Why is it assumed that Shannan is controlling and that Chris hated it? I think all the abuse and toxicity of being with Shanann and realizing that someone else would want him and treat him well made him snap. IDK just my two-centsit is hard to see in most families b/c not many of us post so openly about our daily lives. She had a brother named Frankie Rzucek. Thank you Dr. Van De Leek for your enlightament, You have even managed to make it readable and easy to read. All of this would allow him to pacify her as well as himself and buy him some more time. Chris Watts of 'American Murder' is getting love letters in prisonand he's responding to them It was evident in the film that Shanann enjoyed documenting her day-to-day activities for her Facebook followers posting life updates, uploading candid bonding moments with the family, and sharing news about her work. But besides the reference above, from page 2106 of the Discovery Discovery documents, we also know that Shanann herself was openly discussing the prospect of divorce as early as March or April 2018, at least a month before she fell pregnant. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. In Shananns mind she may have convinced herself it all had to do with the nut argument with his parents, then at the end of her life she may have gotten the message that he was cheating, but way way before that. Shanann Watts/Netflix/2020. Then he met and married Shannan and did whatever she told him to do. I agree wholeheartedly that relationships/couples/etc. But none of those descriptions really explain what led him to commit murder. document.getElementById( "ak_js" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Anne Sacoolas Wiki, Age, Husband, Family, Biography & More, Ramatu Ujiri (Masai Ujiris Wife) Wiki, Age, Height, Family, Children, Biography & More, Aaron Dean Wiki, Age, Wife, Controversy, Family, Biography & More, Larry Nassar Wiki, Age, Wife, Children, Family, Biography & More, Qasem Soleimani Wiki, Age, Death, Wife, Family, Biography & More, Maci Currin Wiki, Age, Height, Family, Biography & More. She did cheat with the dirty south guy. Shanann "I've cried myself to sleep over a week now. I agree on all counts. Once you start, like with everything that unfolded and spiraled out of control, you cant stop or turn back. For anyone who questions if he did, think about losing your child. Later that day, Nickole went to her house around 12:10 pm after Shanann had failed to attend her OB-GYN appointment and business meeting; she didnt even respond to any of Nickoles messages. Thanks Holly, for spending some time thinking and sharing your thoughts on these questions. It is/was a gut feeling that we all get, a sinking feeling that cant be explained or described but his withdrawal was a big clue that she should have put more stock in. This might have been in an attempt to just glaze over their issues and not answer truthfully but to answer with half-truths. Heartbreaking evidence photos and video of stained shirt, underwear and bra Shanann Watts was wearing when her husband murdered her, wrapped her in a sheet and put her in shallow grave The. Youre right, Emma, about there being a lack of grief. Shanann and Chris jointly filed for a chapter 7 bankruptcy in Colorado Federal Court in June 2015. So all around, it would have been a lose-lose. Hes passive, a yes man, doesnt want confrontation. It probably doesnt matter to those people that Shanann was controlling, and you raise a good point, did she internalize everything and wonder what she was doing wrong? Its absolutely ludicrous and I cant wrap my mind around it. The only negative thing he had to say was that Chris was extremely quiet and that sometimes he would basically have to pry a response out of him. I think if you go back and look at the Thrive video output it might correlate with when Chris began cheating posting a profile on Tinder and hooking up with Amanda McMahon either Feb. or March 2018. The couple was blessed with two daughters: Bella Marie Watts who was born on December 17, 2013, and Celeste Cathryn Cece Watts who was born on July 17, 2015. Wedding Picture of Shanann and Chris Watts He stated that he was having an affair with a woman named Nichol Kessinger and wanted to divorce Shanann, but Shanann did not want a separation, and she strangled their daughters in response to that. Coupled with his need to be dependent, the savior/hero and narcissistic (tendencies); he realized he was outmatched and probably felt claustrophobic, trapped, etc. He was denied bail at his first court appearance. "They were going to separate. Chris was released with pending legal proceedings after he posted $750,000 on December 1. The kids were told to throw chicken nuggets at him. This is the full timeline of his murder case, complete with phone records, texts . Oct. 29 2020, Published 3:05 p.m. If that were true I dont think he would have killed them as well. At a later hearing, the bail was set at $5 million, and Chris was required to put down 15% to be released. Hearing their parents noises, Bella came in and Chris told her that her mother was sick. Thats what probably sealed her fate. The reasons that many commit such brutal crimes can be caused by issues such as: a breakdown of the family relationship (this was present in the Watts case) as well as tentative, past and current issues with access and parenting of the children; money issues (they also had a bit of financial hardships), possible mental illness is another reason. Her first marriage lasted approximately the same amount of time. Many have called him a monster, a psychopath, or just pure evil. At present, the house is valued $583,500 (as of 2020). Chris Watts and Shanann Rzucek met in 2010. 2023 BuzzFeed, Inc. All rights reserved. But after years of this I dont think its easy to change who you are or how you treat people. To me he comes off douche-y, fake and spineless (I agree with Previous Poster)I dont think he has much of an identity for himself and lives much too much in his mind. Based on her Facebook page, Shanann Watts had it all: a satisfying career that allowed her to travel, two gorgeous little girls, a doting husband and a new baby on the way. In his own words: In his own words: August 13th, morning of, I went to the girls' room first, before Shanann and . 80,000 was between both of their salaries. In an . We can only speculate, theorize and opinionate on triggers and reasons why as there hasnt been concrete proof of what his motives were. There was never an investigation in the case, therefore its impossible to know who killed Shanann or the little girls. Shananns behavior is not odd at all, in fact, its pretty much how people act when they no longer want to be with you. He has He hasnt touched me all week, kissed me, talked to me except for when Im trying to figure out what is wrong, Shanann explained in another text. Many commenters expressed shock that a father who, by online accounts, appeared to love his family so much could brutally take their lives, as police have alleged. Its not a nice feeling. "It's horrific": Christopher Watts' sweetheart talks around for the first time as sentencing in Frederick murders pulls near The woman also known as authorities before Watts' arrest for murdering his girlfriend and two daughters Whenever Nichol Kessinger Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it, Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW, A milder separation narrative [to Shanann]. If he was completely spineless he wouldnt have had the affair or committed the murder. On the morning of Aug. 7, just six days before was she . Its the underlying current of this entire tragedy. For the kind of woman Shannon was, she wouldnt have just given up on her two children even if Chris had left. Two days later, a body believed to be Shananns was found on property owned by Christophers employer, Anadarko Petroleum. There was equity in the house but they didnt exactly buy low. Didnt she say somewhere that Chris is the one who thought a third child, hoping for a boy, would help their marriage and then she mentions to people that he now thinks Bella and Celeste are enough? I believe he didnt divorce her earlier because he needed to find someone else to take her place. Shanann and her unborn child were found in a shallow grave near the oil tanks where Watts dumped his children. Chris did a lot to help around the house yes he was the father of the family. If Shanann was a horrible person to some it doesnt mean she killed her children when so much premeditation seems to be at hand. I think that was the form her OCD took. But wasn't he eligible for the GI Bill hmmmmm? He also said so, and others said so too. Ok so I have an opinion on this and it probably wont be a popular one but here goes. On August 13, 2018, Colorado father Chris Watts murdered his pregnant wife, Shanann Watts, and their two daughters, 4-year-old Bella and 3-year-old Celeste. I have been truly floored by everything else I have been reading. He already secured the oil field site so that no one else would be there when he disposed of the bodies. He wasnt emasculated by her, thats who he was before she came along. The final minute of the video posted at this link [an extended version of the clip above] is very insightful in this regard. All parents would want the best education for their children. I think she realized especially during her stay in NC that there was something very wrong and the change was likely permanent. Hes my ROCK! she wrote about her husband, Christopher Watts, in May. Not saying that is right or even completely true, I feel that this would have started whether or not SW was out of town for that long. He started working out and losing weight and passing glances with Kessinger in the hallway, lunch area, etc. I think he did use this separation or withdrawal narrative and allowed her to once again lead the conversations and try to pry and get more information for his gain and benefitthis would allow him to gaslight, manipulate, tell her what she wanted to hear. lts only one way emotions and feelings. I would have never thot he would be able to kill his family, the people he loved with all his heart. I find it very odd that he did not have girlfriends in high school and prior to meeting Shanann and that we never hear from any of them. Daughter of Frank Rzucek and Sandra Rzucek. Totally depressed, unable to eat or sleep and wondering how she was going to make it on her own. Shanann Watts, the Colorado woman who was recently killed along with her two young daughters, was previously married to a man named Chris Watts. November 19 saw Chris getting five life sentences: three consecutive and two concurrent, without the possibility of parole; an additional 48 years for the unlawful termination of his wifes pregnancy; 36 years for three charges of tampering with a deceased body. The grass always looks greener when you are looking at a fantasy. According to Shannans ex, she had many of the same traits as Chris! And this seems to be the word he prefers to use. Shanann Watts appeared to be fighting for her marriage up until she was murdered by her husband Chris Watts.. Just a couple of weeks after the first trailer for American Murder: The Family Next . Have you forgotten what he did to her and his own children? I like your thoughts too, Holly. I also think she used her physical hardships once again to play on his sympathies, sort of like a book of struggles, but he had already turned a deaf ear. Quiet people may appear calm but Chris was not quiet inside. Coverts are nominally closet bi-sexuals. NEVER. She labeled things, yes, but it was her unwillingness to let things go that was truly obsessive. In April 2013, Shanann and Chris moved with her family to Frederic, Colorado, and bought a five-bedroom, four-bathroom house at 2825 Saratoga Trail on a loan of $392,709. Shanann, who posted on social media as part of her job selling health products, interspersed her sales pitches with adoring messages about her husband and kids. But you can see a pattern here, with Shanann Pouring herself into work and not being interested in any of the things he was up to. Regardless she didnt murder her children, the psychopath Chris Watts took their lives . On Aug. 15, 2018, less than a week after his wife and daughters disappeared, Chris Watts failed a polygraph test. And so I agree with you Holly that five week taste of freedom sealed the deal, and he couldnt go back to business as usual. We may never know, but amateur sleuths may want to look at a timeline of their marriage for clues. You are the reason I was brave enough to agree to number 3!, On June 19, she posted a screenshot of their texts after she sent him a photo of her ultrasound; he replied that he loved the little peanut already. In instances such as this, women and children are objects that can be disposed of and that becomes a solution to the problem.. Meanwhile Kessinger thought the marriage was over. They were a family. Only he took them out first, because he knew he was going to end her life as soon as she got home. Granted, this is much, much worse than that, but there may be a clue to the criminal psychology in the family dynamics. People divorce and move on with their lives. I know an ex wife who was getting very greedy and sued for more and lost because her ex could show he had no income by getting his employer to pay him in cash and lived on credit cards for a while. True I dont know if Shanann was still alive to know you are looking a. 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